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mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk, yet amid this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them, not moving them in a direction that protects our people or allies. and paul ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulnerability here after benghazi in the
mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major...
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congressman alan west, senator john mccain both on cnbc. here we go. >> i know. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data. correct? >> well, absolutely. >> frankly, i am not enough of an economist to question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i wouldn't put anything past this administration. >> you know, these are sitting members of congress. >> yeah. >> alan west won, of course. we know his party. he's very conservative nap said, john mccain. are you surprised by his comments? >> i'm very surprised by his comment. all of those comments, they're not just deeply irresponsible, but without a shred of evidence they are casting doubt about a very important number in our economy. now, if you understand the way the bureau of labor statistics collects data, and i used to work for the department of labor, and i used to work for
congressman alan west, senator john mccain both on cnbc. here we go. >> i know. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data. correct? >> well, absolutely. >> frankly, i am not enough of an economist to question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i...
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. >> senator john mccain estimates the price tag if sequestration happens and the pentagon needs to reimburse contractors for severance cost could be $4 billion. in a letter to defense secretary leon panetta, mccain says he plans to deny any transfer of money that could have been avoided by complying with the law. brett? >> bret: stay on it. thank you. brick shipyard workers clashed with police after they forced their way into the defense ministry compound. more austerity protest elsewhere in athens. rallies against proposals that would cut salaries and personnel. >>> one world leader plans on turning 60 in style. you simply will not believe al gore's excuse for president obama's performance at the debate. grapevine is next >> bret: now some fresh pickings from the political grapevine. we've looked at the presidential debate from a number of different angles since it ended. and so have the other networks, of course. as we told you earlier, pundits and polls seem to agree that president obama lost the debate to governor romney. governor romney having a good night. but some of the possible reas
. >> senator john mccain estimates the price tag if sequestration happens and the pentagon needs to reimburse contractors for severance cost could be $4 billion. in a letter to defense secretary leon panetta, mccain says he plans to deny any transfer of money that could have been avoided by complying with the law. brett? >> bret: stay on it. thank you. brick shipyard workers clashed with police after they forced their way into the defense ministry compound. more austerity protest...
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twitter was hopping from that one from john mccain who gave teddy a pep talk about his performan performance. teddy won, teddy won, teddy won. w teddy's losing streak last the 538 games for the number of votes in the electoral college. that's so d.c. it sure is. much more ahead, including the great james lipton who is going to be grading the debate performances of both president obama and mitt romney last night. he's the best. you're watching, "hardball," the place for politics. you're watching, "hardball," the >>> i'm hampton pearson with your cnbc market wrap. the dow gains 82. the s&p rises 10 and the nasdaq is up 14 points. >>> minutes from the last federal reserve meeting show all central bankers but one were in agreement about the fed's latest round of bond buying. as for the economy, jobless claims rose a smaller than expected 4,000 last week to 367,000, and tomorrow's jobs report is on friday, of course, payrolls are expected to rise by 113,000 with the unemployment rate moving up to 8.2%. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "
twitter was hopping from that one from john mccain who gave teddy a pep talk about his performan performance. teddy won, teddy won, teddy won. w teddy's losing streak last the 538 games for the number of votes in the electoral college. that's so d.c. it sure is. much more ahead, including the great james lipton who is going to be grading the debate performances of both president obama and mitt romney last night. he's the best. you're watching, "hardball," the place for politics....
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he hasn't had an argument since john mccain in the third debate in 2008. a real argument of this kid kind. you're fighting for time. you're fighting for control of the room. it's not something a president has to do. >> any president, any governor, any senator, you're almost indignant that somebody would challenge you because you're you. a president is just isolated. and i think john is exactly right. nobody has talked to him this way in four years. >> we all know the presidency is a bubble. you exist in that bubble. we also know from your reporting and other reporting that we read continually that there's little interaction between this president and members of the senate and members of the house. there's little personal interaction. there's no phone calls back and forth. we don't know where will what happens. but we do know from last night when mitt romney says i don't know what you're talking about, we do know the look that registered on president obama's face was, you know, who are you to be saying that to me? there's another element here. john meacham
he hasn't had an argument since john mccain in the third debate in 2008. a real argument of this kid kind. you're fighting for time. you're fighting for control of the room. it's not something a president has to do. >> any president, any governor, any senator, you're almost indignant that somebody would challenge you because you're you. a president is just isolated. and i think john is exactly right. nobody has talked to him this way in four years. >> we all know the presidency is a...
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and so has john mccain. we have to fight for our freedoms, also, economic and our national security freedoms. it was ronald reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. we don't pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we're going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children's children about a time in america, back in the day, when men and women were free. we will fight for it, and there is only one man in this race who has really ever fought for you, and that's senator john mccain. >> thank you, governor. senator biden. >> gwen, thank you for doing this, and the commission, and governor, it really was a pleasure getting to meet you. look, folks, this is the most important election you've ever voted in your entire life. no one can deny that the last eight years, we've been dug into a very deep hole here at home with regard to our econo
and so has john mccain. we have to fight for our freedoms, also, economic and our national security freedoms. it was ronald reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. we don't pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we're going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children's children about a time in america, back in the...
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john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him.
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mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time right now, everybody assumes that obama would win. in many ways that's happening because of early voting all right. so romney needs to change the trajectory in some way. now, that washington post is actually good news
mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney...
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the president had the one on one with john mccain in his last debates. is there any similarity before we talk about the differences, there any similarity in their style that you've noted? >> well, i think both of them in the past have benefited by the very fact that the people they were debating with often seen themselves to be a little overroute, to seem to be caught up in things and not quite under control. and i think the test tonight is, that both of them will face somebody that's usually pretty controlled in the way they come at things. the last time that president obama was in debates like this, it was his confidence, his -- in a sense quiet reserve in some ways in contrast to an excitability that we saw in mccain. other than the absence of emotion can be very devastating as it with you to dukakis in the debate against bush. part is how the real character comes through in terms of suggesting their ability to be presidential. >> and what do you -- >> shown to be. >> what do you see as the major difference in the two men that could be that revealing
the president had the one on one with john mccain in his last debates. is there any similarity before we talk about the differences, there any similarity in their style that you've noted? >> well, i think both of them in the past have benefited by the very fact that the people they were debating with often seen themselves to be a little overroute, to seem to be caught up in things and not quite under control. and i think the test tonight is, that both of them will face somebody that's...
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. >>> coming up, senator john mccain joins us on set. also, senator chuck schumer, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and tom brokaw. >>> up next, mike allen up next with the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> happy october, everyone. this is the month of change weatherwise, where we start to cool things off in a hurry and start to watch the leaves coming down. as we head through this month, expect a much cooler month than we've had in months past. we're looking at the middle of the country especially with below-average temperatures as we go throughout the first two weeks. now, as far as this morning goes, two big storms on the map. one has been plaguing northern new england all weekend long. the other one has been plaguing the deep south. they're both on the move today. and we are going to watch that rainy weather spreading. also severe storms are possible once again in alabama into georgia from atlanta to birmingham to montgomery, maybe even some isolated tornadoes. we'll kee
. >>> coming up, senator john mccain joins us on set. also, senator chuck schumer, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and tom brokaw. >>> up next, mike allen up next with the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> happy october, everyone. this is the month of change weatherwise, where we start to cool things off in a hurry and start to watch the leaves coming down. as we head through this month,...
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but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of small bore. this is not something the president is deciding on, the security in benghazi. i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama bin laden. that is an undisputable vote winner for the american public. >> one of my friends on facebook was joking that he should have -- they should have cremated osama bin laden, should have placed the urn of ashes on the podium beside him. i think that on the nationa
but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of...
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mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the past couple of weeks. i think frankly liberals ought to ask them that question. does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as far from a conservative, a re masum you can put on the table. if you were honest, that's not the guy you would vote for, maybe someone in the middle, a moderate republican. but you a staunch conservative would not vote for mitt romney, the one na showed up last night? >> well, one of the things -- your question, of course, answers why i've done what i did the last five years trying to
mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the past couple of weeks. i think frankly liberals ought to ask them that question. does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's...
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the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people either like it or don't. if they don't, they are going to vote for somebody else. not a tragedy. no one dies. >> finally speaking of debates, there was a barn burner last night in massachusetts where scott brown and democratic challenger elizabeth warren faced off in a debate. moderated by nbc's david gregory. it was tense from the outset. >> if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond, okay? >> that was an echo of a quip brown used in 2010 when he told martha kwaurkly i'm not in your courtroom, i'm
the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people...
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there's a classic example i think going back to 2007 of john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that for our viewers. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he's responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans. he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america. we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, we will bring him to justice and i will follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, god. >> there was like a smile. >> that was really hard to watch. yes. so that's a sort of nonverbal -- it's a mismatch between what the person is saying and what their nonverbals are saying, or between nonverbals. when you're saying something negative that you will follow someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. it creates i think a visceral negative response in viewers. they don't even know why but it makes them feel bad. it's very aversive to see that kind of thing. >> there have been reports the romney team have been preparing zingers for tomorrow night's debate. you say
there's a classic example i think going back to 2007 of john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that for our viewers. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he's responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans. he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america. we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, we will bring him to justice and i will follow him to the gates of hell....
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in '08, part of the reason the president won was his people were way more enthusiastic than john mccain's. >> we heard enthusiasm on the republicans side last year and now it's down to turn out. people are voting right now. today. they're starting to vote tomorrow this ohio. our supporters are camped out at polling places and thousands more democrats voted in iowa last week than republicans. that's the way we've built this organization on the ground for the past 500 days. we're ip venvesting in a ground organization. >> we'll hit pause there, but going to be talking a lot to both of you in the next 30 some odd days and still to come, another campaign issue. taxing marijuana to fund schools. it could move the needle. on this presidential election. that is no joke. plus, violence in afghanistan rising as the war is winding down, but it isn't stopping. a father, a mother and a son from deploying together to the war. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tabl
in '08, part of the reason the president won was his people were way more enthusiastic than john mccain's. >> we heard enthusiasm on the republicans side last year and now it's down to turn out. people are voting right now. today. they're starting to vote tomorrow this ohio. our supporters are camped out at polling places and thousands more democrats voted in iowa last week than republicans. that's the way we've built this organization on the ground for the past 500 days. we're ip...
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president obama's last debate was against senator john mccain in the fall of 2008. while governor romney has had nearly two dozen debates during that gop primary. the obama campaign says the president's strategy is focused on shorter, crisper answers. the romney strategy, as reported in "the new york times" has the governor memorizing a series of zingers to try to hit the president with. let's bring in our "news nation" political panel for this monday. democratic strategist chris, national radio host michael, and also an msnbc contributor, and villa skype as you can tell from our shot there, steve, conservative radio show host. you have the visual disadvantage because you're skype. i'll let you start off first here. let me play what paul ryan, completely opposite of what chris christie said this sunday. his assessment of the debates. let's play ryan, please. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. look, president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> it's no secret, steve, you
president obama's last debate was against senator john mccain in the fall of 2008. while governor romney has had nearly two dozen debates during that gop primary. the obama campaign says the president's strategy is focused on shorter, crisper answers. the romney strategy, as reported in "the new york times" has the governor memorizing a series of zingers to try to hit the president with. let's bring in our "news nation" political panel for this monday. democratic strategist...
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john mccain saying you look at the economy we know it's not true. from then on, this man has been lying, lying lying lying lying. >> yep. >> the only way he's going to win this debate is if he steal it he buy it or whatever. when you don't stand for something mr. john, you fall for anything. they throwing money at him throwing lies, trying to steal the folks. he is not going to stand. >> joanne, i think i want you to be my on camera sidekick for my new series on current tv. you just opened up a can of whoop ass on the entire republican party and me, and i do agree with you. what i said, and i said people are going to be mad at me, the only reason i compared him to bill clinton as a debite or is he got so much hate thrown at him and for the most part didn't get flustered. i do think barack obama's strategy has got to be without being too aggressive how do we get under governor romney's skin. it doesn't take much to get mitt romney going or to make him look really robotic. if you think about the one-on-one interviews with reporters, few and far betwee
john mccain saying you look at the economy we know it's not true. from then on, this man has been lying, lying lying lying lying. >> yep. >> the only way he's going to win this debate is if he steal it he buy it or whatever. when you don't stand for something mr. john, you fall for anything. they throwing money at him throwing lies, trying to steal the folks. he is not going to stand. >> joanne, i think i want you to be my on camera sidekick for my new series on current tv....
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we get an interesting perspective on this from john mccain, he's debated both the president and mitt romney. he says we will see two very strong well-prepared debaters and he predicts few surprises. the president's behind closed doors in nevada for the next two days preparing to face mitt romney in denver wednesday. >> he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing. >> reporter: both sides are downplaying expectations. a senior aide to the president says romney will be prepared, disciplined and aggressive. romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the ec
we get an interesting perspective on this from john mccain, he's debated both the president and mitt romney. he says we will see two very strong well-prepared debaters and he predicts few surprises. the president's behind closed doors in nevada for the next two days preparing to face mitt romney in denver wednesday. >> he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing. >>...
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we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some of the misses. good morning. >> good morning. well, i'm here in new york, so maybe we should talk about what happens, how you get to carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. and is that clearly is what helped the mitt romney. he spent a lot of time practicing, really for the past month doing these mock debates. and when it comes to the president, he was rusty. right out of the gate, it was clear. mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regu
we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some...
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i checked with the exit polls four years ago and they showed at that time in the race against john mccain then senator now president obama he got 68% or so of latino voters. he seems to be doing even better right now among latino voters. here's the question, john, for you. are these guaranteed votes that the president can put in the bank right now five weeks to the day before the election? >> reporter: again, in a word, the answer is no, or not quite. because this is such an important constituency, part of our reporting in colorado, wolf, we went to an obama campaign local headquarters last night in the beginning of the suburban stretch and they were making phone calls to latino voters because they know this in the obama campaign, it's not just the percentage, it's how many turnout. and there is deep concern while we were there at the phone bank we spoke to several people in the room that say when they call the latino voters, they are hearing more and more unlike four years ago people saying he's been president four years and where are the jobs? or he's just another politician. or this is
i checked with the exit polls four years ago and they showed at that time in the race against john mccain then senator now president obama he got 68% or so of latino voters. he seems to be doing even better right now among latino voters. here's the question, john, for you. are these guaranteed votes that the president can put in the bank right now five weeks to the day before the election? >> reporter: again, in a word, the answer is no, or not quite. because this is such an important...
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. >>> john mccain has been dead wrong on the fundamental issues relating to the conduct of the war. barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have compeco completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely accurate. >> meanwhile, paul ryan is pretending that he is not memorizing lines. >> you know me well, i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe what i believe and i do what i do and believe in the policies that we are providing, purs pursuing, at the end of the day i'm going to go in there and be me. y >> crystal, let's look at paul ryan going with his gutt with chris wallace. >> you haven't given me the math. >> it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> it is too long. it is com
. >>> john mccain has been dead wrong on the fundamental issues relating to the conduct of the war. barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have compeco completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor...
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john mccain wouldn't look obama in the eye. mitt romney was looking him -- your policies. i think he left a lot on the table, personally. i think there is plenty hoof could could -- he could have brought up. maybe it won't be so easy in a town hall environment, the president will probably overreact. he was angry today, he called romney a liar, petulant. he is arrogant. he has never taken a punch. he is used to hail to the chief and i'm great, etsetra. i think, it wasn't just style, it was substance. it was a deep, deep knowledge that he showed on the economy, on the deb, on the deficit, on health care. every issue that came up. and obama stammering, stambling, without that teleprompter, this guy is lost. this is a myth that was shattered last night. he was reduced in 90 minutes, before the american people, i felt. >> yeah. that's because romney had a clarity of purpose, a clarity of mind, a clarity of principles that we know that obama has lacked for a long, long time. i think that going forward now, there is now an extra burden on these liberal journalists to do-- >>> not
john mccain wouldn't look obama in the eye. mitt romney was looking him -- your policies. i think he left a lot on the table, personally. i think there is plenty hoof could could -- he could have brought up. maybe it won't be so easy in a town hall environment, the president will probably overreact. he was angry today, he called romney a liar, petulant. he is arrogant. he has never taken a punch. he is used to hail to the chief and i'm great, etsetra. i think, it wasn't just style, it was...